Any views on which is "better", Firefox or MyIE2? And why...
ps - I'm not looking for "MyIE2 is just a shell to a security-lacking IE", I rely on firewall and antivirus for "security"... I could care less if IE has a "hole" in it (because in my opinion, for example, if you don't patch your Linux, it has just as many "holes" as Windows, same goes for Gecko versus IE, the "holes" are just "different")...
I like Firefox better. It just seems to look better and be faster. But Kye-U has just turned me on to
K-Meleon, which I urge you to look at to. It's really fast and fully customizable and even open source.
I'm still using mostly Firefox. K-Meleon still has to smooth out some bugs.
I don't trust any IE-shell. I don't trust the IE engine.
Opera used like 75,000 K of memory on my computer, and it was version 7.51...
K-Meleon uses around 20,000 K, Firefox 40,000 K.
K-Meleon is the fastest browser i ever saw (except for the console text-only ones :-) but way too "half-done" yet in my eyes.
MyIE2 is my fav IE Clone, although
Sleipnir (
English support list) has much more potential for the future IMO.
Opera, well, if it would correctly support JS and DOM one day...
I use Firefox - slower than IE on my old box - because i simply don't want to live without those fantastic extensions, the JS console, and the DOM inspector (among other things).
I upgraded to the ugly-themed 0.91 today, needed to start with a fresh profile, and am suffering...
edit: I switched back to 0.8+ for now. ~Half of the extensions i use weren't working in one way or the other (yet).
sidki
I haven't messed around with extensions at all...
I guess what I like about MyIE2 is that it clears the cache, history, et cetera with every browser shutdown...
Is there a way to make Firefox do that?
Can someone please provide a "direct link" to an English download for Sleipnir?
I'd like to give it a test drive but I don't have the time to learn Japanese just to get the dang thing...
Quote:Is there a way to make Firefox do that?
I'm pretty sure there is - via about:config . For some settings there is a GUI under Privacy.
As for the cache, i use a memory-only cache most of the time.
To do that, add something like...
user_pref("browser.cache.disk.capacity", 0);
user_pref("browser.cache.memory.capacity", 16384);
... to prefs.js or - better - user.js in your profile dir.
There was a Sleipnir 1.61
English *Test* Version announced at Y!G the other day, didn't try it yet.
sidki
Is there a way to set up Proxo to do the memory-only chache?
Sounds like I'd like to try that since I bounce back and forth between IE, MyIE2, Firefox, Slimbrowser, and Avant... And now (hopefully) Sleipnir...
To be honest, MyIE2 is "quickly" becoming my default...
In fact, it has been the browser of 90% of my surfing for the past two weeks...
Security concerns are NOT an issue for me (okay, they are of UTMOST priority, but that is a FIREWALL concern, NOT a browser concern)...
The way I see it, the ONLY people that *need* Firefox over IE (or a shell thereof) are people that rely on freebie firewalls (because you get what you pay for!)...
But who knows, after trying those Firefox user_pref's (wherever they are, never even heard of them), I just "might" change my mind on Firefox... Rest assured, it will have NOTHING to do with not "trusting" the IE engine...
Okay, now for that Sleipnir download...
Quote: Is there a way to set up Proxo to do the memory-only chache?
Don't think so
Quote:The way I see it, the ONLY people that *need* Firefox over IE (or a shell thereof) are people that rely on freebie firewalls (because you get what you pay for!)...
If that would be true, i would have a pretty crappy sytem
Quote:...after trying those Firefox user_pref's (wherever they are, never even heard of them)...
Just enter "about:config" in the address bar and do a search (filter) on what you're looking for.
sidki
ProxRocks Wrote:The way I see it, the ONLY people that *need* Firefox over IE (or a shell thereof) are people that rely on freebie firewalls (because you get what you pay for!)...
I have ZoneAlarm Pro and Look'n'Stop as my firewalls, and I'm a Firefox user...
My "point" in the "tangent" is that Firefox is "sold as" the secure alternative to IE...
The "point" I am of sound belief therein is that IF you have a "quality" firewall, an UNPATCHED IE is "just as" SECURE as Firefox...
You forget, this is the age-old debate on open source versus closed...
Don't forget that there ARE hackers out there that download the source code to open source applications with the self-gratifying end-in-mind of defeating the masses that contributed to that open source project to begin with...
Don't be deceived into the false misconception that just because something is "open source" that that makes it "secure"...
There ARE holes in open source applications, the holes are just in different places...
Quote:There ARE holes in open source applications, the holes are just in different places...
The only glitch I know of is Mozilla browsers with the Java plug-in installed. (A deformed javascript line can crash the browser)
And besides, with the source avaliable to everyone, the source constantly changes and there is a bug database for Mozilla. Also programmers constantly analyze the code, fixing any probable hole.
Quote:The "point" I am of sound belief therein is that IF you have a "quality" firewall, an UNPATCHED IE is "just as" SECURE as Firefox...
An unpatched IE can invite spyware, trojans and even viruses to run on your computer, and a firewall won't stop that (unless you've specified it in a flexible firewall, such as Outpost). A basic firewall prevents another person from planting them. A firewall may also prevent it from sending outgoing connections.
Using an unpatched IE will turn your computer into a hoard of spyware, etc. Using Mozilla will not. (Although I admit some careless Mozilla users may run into spyware)
Look how many vulnerability issues there are each week for Internet Explorer! Mozilla does not accept ActiveX controls.
Personally, I use Firefox for 99% of my Internet browsing, with IE there to browse only the necessary sites.
Check out this site:
http://channels.lockergnome.com/news/archi..._explorer.phtml
It may seem like the author was visualizing he was nuking Microsoft Corp. up as he was writing it, but I agree with some points brought up.
Again, I'm not saying you
have to use Mozilla over IE, or that IE is not useful.
I've read more articles on open-source programming versus closed than most even know exist... Being open-source does not *imply* tighter security... Don't let the HYPE prevent open-mindedness...
No offense, but you cannot convince me to *not* use IE based on security concerns in the utilization thereof...
For one, my firewall blocks all DoS attacks, et cetera...
Two, my IE settings do not permit unsigned ActiveX, signed ActiveX is prompted, and all scripting options are prompted...
I could go on, but the argument truly is futile...
I'm not "dogging" Firefox...
This new memory-only cache scheme may just be the tidbit that reverts it back to my default browser over MyIE2 - I'm having trouble, initially, at employing this scheme, but will have more time to focus on it later in the week...
In the meantime, for the next couple of days anyway, I'll be sticking with MyIE2...
Suggested Firefox "extensions" are welcomed so that I may give them a try when I attempt the memory-only cache later this week...
I understand. I use hpguru's recommend IE security settings, of which I can include on the site on request.
Sure, please include those in this thread...
Odds are, that's probably where I got my settings from...
But wouldn't mind verifying that (mine might even be a bit "tighter")...