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Hey - now the only thing that Opera is still missing is the Gecko engine. [lol]

Speaking of which, I understand Sleipnir has the ability to use the Gecko engine...

But I'm afraid I don't know how to set it up to do so - any advice?

I don't have the last Sleipnir version here, can't do it with v1.42, but i guess it's similar to MyIE2 (File -> New Page -> Use Gecko engine).

See that you get a Firefox version that has "mozctl.dll" and "mozctlx.dll" in its main dir, or install the Mozilla ActiveX Control separately (first is better). Then register the DLLs (regsvr32 *.dll), et voila.

sidki

Eureka!!! Thanks man...

Now I have all of the beloved features of Sleipnir 1.61 (1.62 is out, but hold off on it) and the "self-proclaimed" (insert chuckle here) 'security' of "the dead fox"...


The next question becomes - do I *need* "the dead fox" installed for this to work? Or can I merely slap those two .dll's into a Sleipnir subdirectory called "Gecko Engine" and go from there? I have "the dead fox" installed on this machine, but would HIGHLY prefer NOT to on my other machines - just call it a STRONG personal conviction... To each their own, of course, but after using Sleipnir, I have been turned off to Firefox more than one can imagine...

Cool that it worked.

As for those DLLs - no, Sleipnir becomes a Mozilla shell then, so you still need a complete Mozilla installation. The two DLLs are just the interface.
You can install the above mentioned Mozilla control on your other machines instead, but what i don't like with it is that - although you have all the zillions of Gecko files on you machine - you can't use them with a native browser. Plus the control gets updated once in a millennium (last update 5 days ago tho :-)

Sooner or later you'll return to Firefox anyway.

sidki

Return? Why? Firefox is too SIMPLISTIC after using grand ol' Sleipnir...
And if I can use that AND the Gecko engine, seems the ULTIMATE to me... Because the 'dead fox antagonists' can no longer confront me with their "propaganda"... Okay, maybe I get carried away, it's just that I am THAT impressed with Sleipnir...


Now for my next question - I've encountered a slight fly in the ointment...
After setting up Sleipner as a shell to Mozilla, my web traffic is not passing through Proxo - YIKES!!!

Any suggestions?

btw, I used the ActiveX control scheme...

I have Fox 0.9.2 installed, but those .dll's are nowhere to be found - although I see that the .zip file contains them, it's just that the .exe does not install them...


diet: er, make that edit: I uninstalled the ActiveX control and registered those .dll's... Sleipnir would not even open... Unregistered them and Sleipnir was fine... Hopefully there is a way to get Sleipnir to act as a shell to Fox and still use Proxo...

That's another draw-back with the control, there was no UI for the settings last time i tried it.
Copying *all* missing root dir files from the Fx zip to the Fx dir should have done the trick, dunno.
Otherwise you'd need to do it via "about:config" or prefs.js.

user_pref("network.proxy.http", "127.0.0.1");
user_pref("network.proxy.http_port", 8080);
user_pref("network.proxy.ssl", "127.0.0.1");
user_pref("network.proxy.ssl_port", 8080);
user_pref("network.proxy.type", 1);

As for SIMPLISTIC: You should get to know the extension idea: just plug in the features you need.
I have 30+ extensions installed and there is only one single thing that i can't do in Firefox but in another browser (Opera): Editing the cached web document and refreshing the display from the cache - a phantastic feature.

edit: Copying the files from the zip won't work if that zip contains a different build (diff compile options).

sidki

sidki3003 Wrote:As for SIMPLISTIC: You should get to know the extension idea: just plug in the features you need.

Here's how I view that:

It's along the lines of going out and getting a car frame for free...
Then two weeks later, you are given some axles...
Another two weeks and you stumble upon some free tires...
One day you stroll along and find an ash tray at the curb - and the cigarette lighter, no less...
You see some bucket seats sitting on some guys porch - you grab them behind his back...
One day, an engine and a transmission drops out of the sky and somehow bolts themselves to your free frame...
A month or so later, while experimenting with the chemistry set and a Bic Lighter, you discover a way to turn your clear plastic mugs into a windshield...
You repeat the process for a rear window, but botch it up and end up with two door windows instead...
But you're in luck, your neighbor has a couple of doors he will give you...
And you're bound to find a rear window somewhere - just keep looking...

And viola, before you know it, and after hours upon hours upon hours of searching, you will eventually, someday, in the distant future, have the very car you are looking far...


Fuddy duddy, buddy...
When I want a simple web browser loaded with features, I want them upon install, I should NOT have to go and fetch 30+ "items" to piece together my own...

And what goes to say that come September (last I heard anyway) when Firefox releases version 1.0 that your 30+ "items" will still piece together...

Frame that puzzle while you have it, you never know when the border edges are going to change and your puzzle pieces will no longer fit...

Of course, maybe that's what you thrive for - piecing together a puzzle whose framing border edges are constantly changing...


To each there own, I suppose...

Quote:And what goes to say that come September (last I heard anyway) when Firefox releases version 1.0 that your 30+ "items" will still piece together...

You're right, i didn't even upgrade from Firefox 0.8+ because of that.

Quote:Of course, maybe that's what you thrive for - piecing together a puzzle whose framing border edges are constantly changing...

That's basically what my Prox config is all about.

sidki

sidki3003 Wrote:That's basically what my Prox config is all about.

sidki

lol... I hear ya there...
When it comes to Proxo, I'll puzzle pieces together all day long...
I guess I just don't place my browser upon the same shelf...

Allow me to add this, why the persistence upon Firefox when feature-packed Sleipnir can act as a shell to its engine that you so greatly admire?

Quote:Otherwise you'd need to do it via "about:config" or prefs.js.

user_pref("network.proxy.http", "127.0.0.1");
user_pref("network.proxy.http_port", 8080);
user_pref("network.proxy.ssl", "127.0.0.1");
user_pref("network.proxy.ssl_port", 8080);
user_pref("network.proxy.type", 1);

The easiest thing to do with settings which you are not likely to change often is put them into a user.js file (which goes into the same directory as prefs.js). I did that with the above, plus a good deal more. I have backup copies of the user.js file, so if I am forced to dump my profile and start over, all I need to do is copy the backup file back in again, and I am in business.

Quote:It's along the lines of going out and getting a car frame for free...
Then two weeks later, you are given some axles...
Another two weeks and you stumble upon some free tires...

It's more like getting a basic car with no extra features. If you want a stereo system, or a radio, or a lighter, you have to add those things. The philosophy behind the idea of extensions was: why bloat the browser with things which many people don't want? I do think it was a mistake to remove .mng support, though.