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Sidki's filters block ZA free download - Mele20 - Nov. 19, 2008 01:15 AM
"Prox says foo" ----what the heck is THAT??? I get that message, even when BYPASSING Proxo or unchecking webfilters. I get it on Fx, IE and Opera when trying to get the free Zone Alarm offer.
http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/sum/index.html
Finally, after I switched to Scott's default config, that message disappeared and I was able to get a popup box to fill out for the offer. They are overwhelmed so no longer allowing downloads, but asking for name and email address and they are going to send a link for download after the 24 hour offer is over.
I figured Proxo was not allowing the popup but even when I bypassed or unchecked web filters I still couldn't get the popup. I've noticed other times that bypass doesn't seem to do anything if Sidki's filters are being used. Wonder why that is? Bypass isn't really bypass?
IE6 gets hung on that page. Actually, Opera 9.62 was the only browser (and I also tried IE8 and Fx3 on a virtual machine) that was able to give me a button to submit but it too was producing "Prox says foo" until I closed Opera, then switched to Proxo default config (Scott's last). The log was not recording any activity on the ZA page as long as Sidki's filters were being used or even bypassed. I had to switch to Scott's to even see activity on the log. That seems weird.
Anyhow, is the "Prox says foo" an "easter egg" sort of thingy that Sidki put in there?
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - Graycode - Nov. 19, 2008 01:37 AM
The dashes are part of that text, it's "prox-says-foo".
Doing a google search it seems that phrase is used in 2 Sidki filters:
Code:
Name = "<img>...: Risky Protocols to Link 7.05.24 [sd] (d.1)"
Name = "<div> Remove: Floating Layers 7.07.06 [jd sd] (d.3 l.3)"Beyond that I can't help, especially about the bypass issue.
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - ProxRocks - Nov. 19, 2008 01:40 AM
"sounds like" a floating layer...
did you clear your cache before refreshing with Proxo in bypass?
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - Mele20 - Nov. 19, 2008 01:51 AM
Ahh....thanks. That was a floating layer it was removing. I've used Sidki's filters for over three years and never before encountered either of those that would give that message.
As for the bypass issue, usually I just refresh the page after either unchecking Web Filters or checking Bypass. Maybe sometimes I should be closing the browser and reopening? I wonder if that varies by browser or what? Having to close Fx with 45 tabs loaded so I can bypass Proxo for one tab is not something I want to do. That's ok for IE or Opera where I don't have many tabs loaded. Plus, if I had to close Fx and then reopen with Proxo bypassed what a mess that would be with 45 tabs and all of them trying to load third party cookies and Fx popping up an "ask me" box about each cookie...it would take forever to load all the tabs. I know I can switch configs and not need to close the browser and then reopen so bypassing/unchecking Web Filters should also work without needing to shut down the browser.
(Nov. 19, 2008 01:40 AM)ProxRocks Wrote: "sounds like" a floating layer...
did you clear your cache before refreshing with Proxo in bypass?
I have 0 cache on Fx and Opera. So, nothing to clean there. But on IE, I can't have 0 cache and I didn't think about it there. IE6 on my host XP machine wouldn't work there. IE8 on a virtual machine running XP Pro worked there ok but I did forget that IE has a cache...dumb but easy to do since I haven't had a cache for the other browsers in a long time.
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - whenever - Nov. 19, 2008 03:09 AM
Mele20, there is a Clear Private Data command under Fx's Tool menu, where you can select to clear the cache without closing and reopening the browser.
In fact, simply closing and reopening the browser won't clear the cache unless you check the setting to clear cache on exit.
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - Mele20 - Nov. 19, 2008 04:56 AM
Err....I believe you missed the part of my post where I stated I do NOT have a cache on Fx or Opera. I have a cache on IE only because IE will not allow me to have 0 cache so there I have the smallest cache IE will allow. Fx and Opera do not require a cache. That is needed only if you are stuck with dialup. Broadband users don't need a cache.
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - Oddysey - Nov. 19, 2008 06:38 AM
Mele;
Within IE6, you might try this:
Tools/Internet Options/Temporary Internet Files - Settings.... Under "Check for newer versions of stored pages:", select "Every visit to the page". This won't disable the cache, but you can then set the size of the reserved storage area to zero (only with the combo box, not with the slider). When IE checks everytime anyway, it shouldn't bark about there being no cache.
Checking the directory structure (folders, for you youngsters out there), you'll still see them all set up, like they were before. But if you monitor them as you surf, you'll find nothing being deposited therein (except any cookies you allow).
BTW, a broadband connection is no guarantee of not needing a cache. All it takes is one little routing glitch along the path, and your request will be gladly sent to The Big Bit Bucket In The Sky. At that point, a cache is nice to have, plus, you'd never know there was something wrong for those few moments. And yes, it does happen, more often that it should. People are looking into new ways to make routers more efficient. Check it out here: Kevin Bacon Saves The Internet! (Google shows lots of other sources for this topic, I just posted the funny one.
)HTH
Oddysey
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - Mele20 - Nov. 19, 2008 10:00 AM
I have the perfect example of why I should have a cache on Fx (at least on the old version 1.5 that I use on my host computer). I just typed a very nice, rather lengthy reply to you. I clicked on Preview and Proxo said it couldn't find this site. I though "ugh" as that meant my message had gone "poof". Fx3 would still have the message even with no cache but not 1.5.
I don't feel like retyping all of it...besides I'm hungry. I had said that in IE I finally recalled that I had tried what you suggested sometime ago about changing the cache size to zero via the box and not the slider. I wasn't allow to do that. I could make it a LOT smaller than with the slider (60MB minimum) to 1MB but a cache is required. You get an error message if you put it to zero. I also recalled that when I put it 1MB that I had problems with IE and was told on a Microsoft forum that IE requires more than 1MB to function properly and that about 50MB is the lowest you should use. As for the checking for new information every time on a web page, I've always set IE that way.
That article was funny and interesting.
Since I have no cache on this Fx 1.5, I am going to now copy this post before I try to preview.
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - whenever - Nov. 19, 2008 11:17 AM
(Nov. 19, 2008 04:56 AM)Mele20 Wrote: Err....I believe you missed the part of my post where I stated I do NOT have a cache on Fx or Opera.Opera has memory cache and disk cache. Have you diabled both?
If you do have no cache, every url is supposed to be retrived from the server again on page reloading, then I can't understand why you still get that message even bypassing proxo.
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - ProxRocks - Nov. 19, 2008 12:47 PM
(i have BOTH disabled in Opera... but that aside...)
i can confirm that i get this "Prox says foo" bit also...
but i do *NOT* have to clear my chache, i reload/refresh, whoala, that "pop-up" asking for name, date of birth, social security number, first-born child, mother's maiden name, et cetera (yeah, i'm being sarcastic), where was i?, that "pop-up" is alive-and-kicking, i didn't have to jump through any hoops at all to get it with Prox in bybass...
so, what other cache-crud are you using? are you using eDexter or anything else that "interferes" with your cache? there has to be "something" else 'mangling with' your cache, from what it looks like here...
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - lnminente - Nov. 19, 2008 12:55 PM
To bypass cache press CTRL+F5
Firefox also has cache in memory. To delete both caches i use custom buttons https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5066
Buttons for clear cache are here http://custombuttons2.com/forum/buttons-database/page50.html?sk=s&sd=a
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - Mele20 - Nov. 20, 2008 01:17 AM
ProxRocks - I should have both disabled in Opera but I'll have to check. I'm not using eDexter and I don't know what crap could be interfering. This has me intrigued as I have been very careful about the memory leak in Fx which is not fixed in Fx3 although it is much improved over 1.5.
lnminente, the Fx memory cache is for images and chrome only. Would that floating popup be considered an image for the purposes of Fx's memory cache? In 1.5, I have Browser.cache.memory.capacity as "user set" to the postive integer of "1" which equals 1024 KB. about:cache?device=memory shows currently:
Memory cache device
Number of entries: 1042
Maximum storage size: 44032 KiB
Storage in use: 43861 KiB
Inactive storage: 7456 KiB
All the entries listed are either jpegs or gifs. Unfortunately, the ZA page is gone now so I can't go to it, bypass Proxo, and see what gets shown in the memory cache. I hadn't even thought about these settings for image/chrome cache since I set them up probably about three years ago. I was having the same thing happen (not seeming to bypass) on Fx3 on an XP Pro virtual machine. That Fx is not very much customized so it may be using default settings. My Fx3 on my Vista guest machine is highly customized (like 1.5 is on the host machine) but I wasn't using that machine when I got these results at that ZA page. I'll have to check both of them for settings when I have time.
There is also the setting in 1.5 "browser.sessionhistory.max_total_viewers" that uses a back-forward cache to retain the last few session entries and is calculated according to a table regarding how much physical RAM the computer has. I turned this feature off a long time ago so it is not what is causing my problem with bypassing not appearing to be actually bypassing Proxo.
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - ProxRocks - Nov. 20, 2008 11:19 AM
my Firefox is the Portable version...
upon its first run, it asks about a "Disable Session Restore", i have that disabled...
aside from that, my Portable 3.0.4 really shouldn't "behave" any differently than your version...
the only other thing i can think of is that when i open Firefox, i DENY the TCP connections it "attempts" to make at startup (while it creates a "Mozilla" folder in one of my Doc-and-Set's folders, which i don't recall offhand "where" exactly, that "lock" is on my office computer) [and yeah, i also deny Firefox the ability to create that "Mozilla" folder]... yeah, i'm "paranoid", but hey, isn't that why you yourself are using Firefox over IE/Opera, due to a "paranoia", self-percieved or otherwise, mythical or real, lol... yeah, i know, i throw "too many" anti-Fox opines than i suppose i "should", lol...
edit: the "denied-to-create" Mozilla folder is C:\Documents and Settings\user-account\Application Data\Mozilla ...
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - lnminente - Nov. 20, 2008 01:49 PM
(Nov. 20, 2008 01:17 AM)Mele20 Wrote: Fx memory cache is for imagesI see... i wasn't know. Try firefox.exe -safe-mode to know if the problem is by an addon or an user pref.
Also can create a new profile with firefox.exe -profilemanager I use two profiles, one with my everyday addons and other with addons for debugging or wich i rarely use. To select the profile: firefox.exe -P profilename
(Nov. 20, 2008 11:19 AM)ProxRocks Wrote: the "denied-to-create" Mozilla folder is C:\Documents and Settings\user-account\Application Data\Mozilla ...I think this folder is created for looking for updates of your addons. Try to disable automatic updates and safebrowsing instead.
RE: Sidki's filters block ZA free download - ProxRocks - Nov. 20, 2008 01:55 PM
(Nov. 20, 2008 01:49 PM)lnminente Wrote:(Nov. 20, 2008 11:19 AM)ProxRocks Wrote: the "denied-to-create" Mozilla folder is C:\Documents and Settings\user-account\Application Data\Mozilla ...I think this folder is created for looking for updates of your addons. Try to disable automatic updates and safebrowsing instead.
i have auto-updates (aka, "phone home") disabled, i don't "do" addons, and i'm the most paranoid (ie, amongst the safest of hexers) out there...
i have a "dislike" towards Firefox because of start-up TCP connections and folder creations that are simply *NOT* needed (ie, i prevent them, Firefox runs perfectly fine, so WHY are they (TCP and folder) there in the first place?)... [i'm aware of Mozilla's "explano", but i say "bs", 'cause if it was simply some loopback thingie, my Firefox would NOT function when i DENY those "nuances"...]
follow-up: i just allowed that folder to be created just to peak under the hood... it's creating a file called UserID... if that doesn't WREAK tracking device, then i don't know what does... why not just set your UserAgent string as "I'm running Firefox, I live in the State of Insanity, my address is 123 BS Road, my SSN is 123-45-6789, my dob is 1/1/01"...