Silverlight filter?

[Mele20]

When I went to Microsoft Download Center today (on Fx 3 on Vista) to get the IE patch, I was invited to try the beta for Download Center (probably because I have Silverlight installed on Vista and have the Fx plugin). So, I did and the Silverlight ads about MS products were a bit irritating and I could not stop the endless looping of the ads. The "ads" themselves were ok but playing endlessly was very distracting. Plus, I wonder if the ads will always be innocuous. This was just the beta but when beta is over and Microsoft switches Download Center, and the rest of their site, to Silverlight, I will want a toggle switch for Silverlight.

Since Sidki's filters are no longer developed...what is going to happen in situations like this? Is a toggle switch hard to make? Didn't I read here somewhere that Grypen recently said he is still committed and he has a Sept 2008 config?

[lnminente]

Sorry Mele20, i have my mind now only for creating a new base config, but i can recomend you by the momento to use NoScript in firefox to disable silverlight, java, and other plugins...
Glad you liked the help for finding the filter causing problems

[Mele20]

I didn't know you were developing a new base config - that's great! I didn't mean to imply that a toggle switch was needed now for Silverlight as it will be some time before Microsoft gets their sites that use it out of beta and not many other sites are yet using Silverlight so a toggle would not really be needed until it becomes much more popular.

I tried NoScript for Fx a year or so ago and was irritated by it but I will try it again as that is a good idea for disabling plugins.

Yes, you explain clearly and I thank you again for that help sticky.

[ProxRocks]

i'm late to the punch bowl on this thread...
i don't have silverlight, but shall do so in a VOS to create a toggle for it...

looking at the source code at silverlight.net example, there's no object/embed, which i was expecting to see, but i'm still confident that silverlight content is "toggleable"...


in the meantime, if you can compile a "list" of sites using silverlight, that will be a step in the right direction in helping me out...

ten sites or so, so i can make sure a "test toggle beta" at least works for the "list"... (it "might" be too 'new' to even be able to find ten, not sure...)

[lnminente]

You can configure NoScript to allow scripts globally, in that way it will not be irritating

The base config, must be a config writen by all of us. I can apport my experience creating filters from scratch, but don't know anything about sidki or grypen config... I hope people start posting their favourite base filters to the thread

[Graycode]

(Dec. 19, 2008 05:06 AM)ProxRocks Wrote:  looking at the source code at silverlight.net example, there's no object/embed, which i was expecting to see, but i'm still confident that silverlight content is "toggleable"...

Look at their script: silverlight.net/Themes/silverlight/js/silverlight/Silverlight.js
There you'll see ActiveX and 'navigator.plugins' detection, and injection of the object & param tags.

[z12]

Graycode Wrote:Look at their script: silverlight.net/Themes/silverlight/js/silverlight/Silverlight.js
There you'll see ActiveX and 'navigator.plugins' detection, and injection of the object & param tags.

hmmm... I didn't see embed code in that script.
Is Silverlight an IE only thing?
If so, there probably won't be an embed tag.

Anyway, it looks like the tfr filter could match it.
The flash check could be expanded to include a check for "silverlight".

To get the file name, might have to include a new parameter name/value check in the js.
I'm not sure what's used for silverlight.

It's worth a shot.

z12

[43unite]

(Dec. 20, 2008 01:18 PM)z12 Wrote:  Is Silverlight an IE only thing?

A stated goal is to begin Firefox 3 support with Silverlight 2.

Moonlight is an open source implementation of Silverlight (http://silverlight.net), primarily for Linux and other Unix/X11 based operating systems.

The goals are:
- To run Silverlight applications on Linux.
- To provide a Linux SDK to build Silverlight applications.
- To reuse the Silverlight engine built for desktop applications.

http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight

[z12]

43unite Wrote:A stated goal is to begin Firefox 3 support with Silverlight 2.

I took a quick look at the moonlight link you posted.
I didn't notice any links to sites that actually use it.

As ProxRocks said, what would be helpful is a list of sites that actually use "(silver|moon)light".
That would make it easier to review the code in its various incarnations.

z12

[ProxRocks]

agreed...

any silver|moon filter will basically be using our "under the hood" toggle flash files... i'm currently using them for Sun Java applets as well (not to "resize", just to toggle and drag-and-drop)...

but without a "list", it almost seems silver|moon is too "new" to worry about... yet, lol...

[Graycode]

(Dec. 20, 2008 01:18 PM)z12 Wrote:  hmmm... I didn't see embed code in that script.

Oh I had not noticed that! Searching around, it seems to work for some Firefox users and not others. Apparently the versions of 'silverlight.js' used has a lot to do with it, and served with MIME like 'application/x-silverlight' being more important for browsers other than IE.

Opera was working with Microsoft to get some compatibility but that may not have worked out.
http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/silverl...r-near-you
http://blog.crazyboomerang.com/2007/12/s...opera.html

I won't worry about it until (unless) its use becomes more common.

[z12]

Graycode Wrote:Searching around, it seems to work for some Firefox users and not others. Apparently the versions of 'silverlight.js' used has a lot to do with it

I've noticed the same thing with flash.
I know Firefox can handle flash just fine as on object element rather than an embed.
First noticed that back when I was first fooling around with a flash to image filter.
In fact, I could only get flash to work in FF as an object and had to serve it to IE as an embed!

Graycode Wrote:I won't worry about it until (unless) its use becomes more common.

If it's an easy tweak, fine. Otherwise it'll be on my back burner, probably way back.
I've been working on toggling flash for a couple of years, and I don't think that filter is done yet.
Come to think of it, I don't think I have any filters that are "done".
Maybe if proxo becomes obsolete and I never use it, then they'll be done.

z12