IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
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May. 18, 2010, 10:18 PM
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IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
Hello,
Just a minor annoyance here browsing with IE8 on any Google site. Under "PROX: Header Top Insertion Begins" my user agent appears thusly: Code: ncWith: "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)" Other sites correctly show IE8 as my browser: Code: ncWith: "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1)" How can I get IE8 to appear on Google sites as well without breaking any other filters? TIA, DarthTrader |
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May. 19, 2010, 03:42 AM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
I see
Code: ncWith: "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1)" with SIDKI 2009-05-24 ALPHA 4. Have you added to the lists? |
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May. 19, 2010, 12:54 PM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
Hi JJoe,
I just loaded sidki_2009-05-24.ptron dated 7/18/2009 and I still get MSIE 7. Yes, I have added things to various lists. Which lists did you have in mind? DarthTrader |
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May. 19, 2010, 04:03 PM
(This post was last modified: May. 19, 2010 04:05 PM by JJoe.)
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
What is your IE8 actually sending?
Probably User-Agents.ptxt, Exceptions.ptxt, or Exceptions-U.ptxt. Something that fakes the User-Agent. User-Agents.ptxt has, Code: Mozilla/4.0(^$TST(keyword=*.f_ua_(^[a-z]++ie)*)) \(compatible; MSIE(^ 5.01)\2; So IE8's User-Agent should be (I think) 'corrected' to, Code: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1) My IE8 sends Code: User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0) In Exceptions.ptxt Code: # Google Search f_ua_opie -> fake Opera, if not IE or Opera Since I don't have any other User-Agent related entries (I think), the Proxomitron changes the User-Agent to Code: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1) Exceptions-U.ptxt provides ## don't fake browser info (headers & JS) $SET(0=i_ua:0.) and ## fake user-agent: "Anything" $SET(0=f_ua_§Anything.) but I think it would be best to discover what is up. HTH |
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May. 19, 2010, 09:39 PM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
(May. 19, 2010 04:03 PM)JJoe Wrote: What is your IE8 actually sending?My IE8 is sending this: Code: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E) Quote:Probably User-Agents.ptxt, Exceptions.ptxt, or Exceptions-U.ptxt.My User-Agents.ptxt is the same Quote:So IE8's User-Agent should be (I think) 'corrected' to,This is what mine shows for non-google sites. Quote:My IE8 sendsMy Exceptions.ptxt is the same. Quote:f_ua_opie -> fake Opera, if not IE or OperaAgreed. I will try some things over the next few days and report any findings. Thanks, DarthTrader |
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May. 20, 2010, 12:59 AM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
You could use some flags.
(May. 19, 2010 09:39 PM)DarthTrader Wrote:(May. 19, 2010 04:03 PM)JJoe Wrote: User-Agents.ptxt has, What do you see at http://www.google.com after you change it to Code: Mozilla/4.0(^$TST(keyword=*.f_ua_(^[a-z]++ie)*)) \(compatible; MSIE(^ 5.01)\2; ? The header filter 'User-Agent: Manage listed Strings - Set Var' calls this list. When the filter exits the variable hOrigUA contains the original UA; \1 in $OHDR(User-Agent:( ) \1) contains the fake. Have you any other User-Agent header filters? Offered for no particular reason Code: [Patterns] Have fun |
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May. 20, 2010, 04:13 AM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
With $ALERT(\1) I see an alert box:
Code: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1) I can force the correct user agent by changing this: Code: Mozilla/4.0(^$TST(keyword=*.f_ua_(^[a-z]++ie)*)) \(compatible; MSIE(^ 5.01)\2; Code: Mozilla/4.0(^$TST(keyword=*.f_ua_(^[a-z]++ie)*)) \(compatible; MSIE(^ 5.01)\2; JJoe, since you are getting the correct user agent for IE8, can you confirm that the Google: Multi URL Untangler filter is working for Google searches on your machine? I have also discovered that http://www.nytimes.com is returning the incorrect MSIE 7.0 user agent. I am also using these two header filters: Accept: Fake while faking User-Agent Accept-Charset: Kill while faking User-Agent DarthTrader |
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May. 20, 2010, 04:24 AM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
Update:
Under IE8 Compatibility View settings, I had these two items checked: Include updated website lists from Microsoft Display intranet sites in Compatibility View Once I unchecked these two items, my User Agent correctly shows MSIE 8.0, but this breaks the Google: Multi URL Untangler filter. |
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May. 20, 2010, 06:17 AM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
(May. 20, 2010 04:24 AM)DarthTrader Wrote: Update: Ahh... as I suspected but I thought you'd see this when you checked the UA in the Proxomitron's log window. Interesting that they choose to fake their UA. I rarely use IE8 and haven't enabled those things. (May. 20, 2010 04:24 AM)DarthTrader Wrote: Once I unchecked these two items, my User Agent correctly shows MSIE 8.0, but this breaks the Google: Multi URL Untangler filter. I think it works for me. Having fun |
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May. 20, 2010, 03:39 PM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
(May. 20, 2010 06:17 AM)JJoe Wrote: I think it works for me. I don't think so. The Google search results may look the same, but the page source for IE8 is quite different than IE7. I don't think the Untangler filter could ever work on a search result using IE8. In any case, thanks for the helpful troubleshooting tools. DarthTrader |
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May. 20, 2010, 06:00 PM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
(May. 20, 2010 03:39 PM)DarthTrader Wrote: I don't think the Untangler filter could ever work on a search result using IE8. I haven't investigated but look at the attached png. What do you see at http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=ie7&q=proxomitron ? HTH |
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May. 20, 2010, 06:32 PM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
(May. 20, 2010 06:00 PM)JJoe Wrote: I haven't investigated but look at the attached png. I see the same as you. What do you see when you connect to http://www.google.com, then activate debug logging, and then type Proxomitron into the search box and click Search? DarthTrader |
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May. 20, 2010, 10:08 PM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
(May. 20, 2010 06:32 PM)DarthTrader Wrote: What do you see when you connect to http://www.google.com, then activate debug logging, and then type Proxomitron into the search box and click Search? I finally see the same as you. I had forgotten about the google ajax. I don't always get it. From what we have learned, we should be able to fake IE7 for just www.google.com/ and get the Untangler back... The ajax went away after I added Code: www.google.com/(^?)&$OHDR(User-Agent:Mozilla/4.0 \(compatible; MSIE 8.0;*) to Exceptions-U. The Untangler filter works again, I think. Of course, part of your original "minor annoyance" has returned, but for only www.google.com/. Good enough? |
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May. 20, 2010, 10:24 PM
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RE: IE8: Correct User Agent on Google sites
Or I can simply add google.com to the Compatibility View Settings. Either way is good enough for me!
Thanks, DarthTrader |
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