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Dec. 15, 2004, 03:35 PM
Post: #1
 
Yesterday i came across a cool new feature from Google Labs: http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en
Try for instance typing "prox" and wait a moment.
Google Suggest FAQ.

This is a situation where the browser's autocomplete function should remain off, so the Autocomplete filter i posted the other day should better go like:
Code:
[Patterns]
Name = "<input>: Autocomplete - Remember Passwords"
Active = TRUE
Multi = TRUE
URL = "$TYPE(htm)"
Bounds = "<input*>"
Limit = 256
Match = "\1 autocomplete=$AV(off)\2"
"&*type=$AV(password)"
Replace = "\1\2"


Earlier inventions:

GMail supports POP3/SMTP now. No third party apps needed anymore. Link -- Login required.

Quote:POP access is free for all Gmail users and we have no plans to charge.

* Over the next several weeks, we are introducing POP access to all of our users. To make sure the feature is fully stable, we're giving users access to POP in phases. Once POP access is available to you, a 'New Features!' link appears at the top of your account, along with a 'Forwarding and POP' tab on your 'Settings' page.

The automatic Google translator now handles Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (beta).
For instance: http://translate.google.com/translate_c?u=...gu/proxomitron/

You can search Google for definitions.


sidki
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Dec. 15, 2004, 05:28 PM
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sidki;
Quote:GMail supports POP3/SMTP now. No third party apps needed anymore.
Yes, that's all well and good, but does the incoming message, via POP3, arrive with a boatload of links on the page, or does it come in as the author intended - pure as the driven snow?

That's why I don't use their web-based service in the first place - I don't want to be wading 4$$-deep through links that I'll never follow. It's already tough enough just getting out of bed in the morning, I don't need any more aggravation! Wink


Oddysey

I'm no longer in the rat race - the rats won't have me!
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Dec. 15, 2004, 05:50 PM
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Oddysey Wrote:Yes, that's all well and good, but does the incoming message, via POP3, arrive with a boatload of links on the page, or does it come in as the author intended - pure as the driven snow?
Snow-white.

Quote:That's why I don't use their web-based service in the first place - I don't want to be wading 4$$-deep through links that I'll never follow. It's already tough enough just getting out of bed in the morning, I don't need any more aggravation! Wink
Update your config. Wink
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Dec. 16, 2004, 02:18 AM
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sidki;

Quote:Update your config Wink
Tha's funny - I just knew you were gonna say that, or something like it. Big Teeth

But here's the drill (beside my current non-Gmail status, that is): if I filter to remove unwanted links within the body of the message, what happens to those links originally inserted by the author? How can I distinguish between the two, or can I? Any ideas on that?

Oh, wait...... I just had a thought. Do the Gmail links have a special identifier, such as a class ID or style name, one that would not be present in an original link?

And for the record, I have probably 6, maybe 7 filters that I built to handle Yahoo's advertising, anti-privacy, and layout crap, and I'm perfectly happy with the way everything works now. The only reason to jump ship would be to get back to POP3 access. Yahoopops is OK, but doesn't always work on the outgoing side of the equation. Like your blurb said, no more third-party apps = good thing. Elsewise, I'd just stick with what I've got now.


Oddysey

I'm no longer in the rat race - the rats won't have me!
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Dec. 16, 2004, 03:51 AM
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Hi Oddysey,

Yeah, i'm getting predictable with age, i know...

The message body doesn't contain any ads or added links or anything (hence snow-white). But the surrounding tags do. Right, you can block them by targeting their ID, like "ad", "taw[0-9]", "g_spon_[a-z0-9_-]+", etc. I'm unable to fiddle out all of them right now as they are part of a list with ad'ish classes/IDs.

sidki
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Dec. 16, 2004, 07:44 AM
Post: #6
 
Quote:http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en
Try for instance typing "prox" and wait a moment.
This works only if you allow Google to set cookies (which I do not).
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Dec. 16, 2004, 11:02 AM
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sidki;

I think that I made an assumption, and I probably shouldn't have. When you said "Snow White", did you mean after filtering, or before? I had thought 'before', and that's why I was interested in filtering out any Google-inserted links. But upon reflection, I couldn't see our one and only sidki3003 letting anything in without at least some filtering! [lol]

So, the question should now be reworded as: Does the message body text contain any links at all before filtering? If 'Snow White' means that there are no links at all, before filtering, then any links inserted by the message's author are already gone, ne-c'est-pas? In such a case, I would have to either copy/paste the raw text into a browser addy bar, or kype a filter from somewhere that re-activates the intended links, am I correct?

Sounds like a lot of trouble to set up, but I imagine that once it's working correctly, all should be well in wonderland. :P


Oddysey

I'm no longer in the rat race - the rats won't have me!
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Dec. 16, 2004, 02:33 PM
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Email message == What you see in your local email program -> consists of header and body.

Message body == Body of the email message -> Remains as the author sent/intended it, not added anything, no need to filter anything. On the contrary, this body gets injected into the document by a script, which i protect from being filtered.

Document == Web interface that presents the email message -> Google AdSense links (mostly at the right) -> can be blocked by targeting the ad'ish IDs of the parent tags.


sidki
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Dec. 16, 2004, 02:44 PM
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Siamesecat Wrote:
Quote:http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en
Try for instance typing "prox" and wait a moment.
This works only if you allow Google to set cookies (which I do not).
Works here. I don't allow incoming http://www.google.* cookies, but i do send a fake cookie (PREF).

sidki
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Dec. 17, 2004, 07:35 AM
Post: #10
 
sidki,
I tried that again with the web filters disabled, and it worked. I don't know which one(s) stopped the suggestions from being added. Maybe analyzing the "before" and "after" source code will give me a clue.
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Dec. 17, 2004, 11:52 AM
Post: #11
 
Hmm... Since this whole thing is script-driven, it may be one of your JS filters. Or a filter without tag bounds that replaces strings in the entire document. Might be worth a try to disable those first and then re-enabling them one by one.

sidki
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