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« on: April 09, 2002, 12:24:49 AM »
My wonderful Proxomitron has worked wonderfully for a year, but now I have a problem.

I am unable to send mail via Yahoo web-based mail. This is my primary e-mail account. This just started about a week ago. I can view all pages throughout Yahoo mail but when I hit the "Send" button to send an e-mail nothing happens, the page just sits there. If I try using the "Bypass" option the same thing happens. But, if I shutdown Proxomitron I can send e-mail successfully.

What makes this really strange is that I am running the same configuration at home and at work. I can successfully use Proxomitron with Yahoo mail at work but not at home. Both machines are running Windows 2000 and IE 6 with Proxomitron Naoko 4.1. I even zipped up my Proxomitron from worked and installed it at home but I still cannot send mail from home unless I shutdown Proxomitron. The only real difference is that I'm going through a proxy server and firewall at work.

This is the line I have in the Bypasslist for Yahoo mail:
[^/]++us.f116.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose

Other than this I'm using mostly default settings.

This is the Proxomitron log when I hit the Yahoo mail "Send" button. I removed a couple lines that contained my username and e-mail address.

+++GET 36+++
POST /ym/Compose?YY=6414 HTTP/1.0
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, */*
Referer: http://us.f116.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?YY=40342
Accept-Language: en-us
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461)
Host: us.f116.mail.yahoo.com
Content-Length: 268
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: keep-alive
Browser reload detected...
Posting 268 bytes...

I'd be happy to try any suggestions.
Mike
 

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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2002, 02:41:19 AM »
First of, i hope someone with a real clue will find his way to this thread.
In the meantime i have a couple of questions.

When you say you used the bypass option, do you mean right-clicking the tray icon and checking "Bypass" or do you mean the Bypasslist?
In the latter case you could do something. Of course, try at first the general bypass.
If your webmail works, have a look at your list:

(I cannot post the plus-sign, so i use "p" instead)
[^/]ppus.f116.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose
is not really useful since "us.f..." is already the beginning of the URL.
Try [^/]ppyahoo.com/, then [^/]ppmail.yahoo.com/.

If nothing helps, you could have a look at your posted data.
Maybe something is going wrong there:
Open the proxo log window, and under "Edit" check "View Posted data". They will be shown in gray.

The last resort are IE6's proxy options. IE maintains an exclusion list. You could enter "*mail.yahoo.com" there.


 
 

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2002, 04:22:25 AM »
sidki3003, to answer your question about the Bypass option... I was referring to right-clicking and selecting "Bypass".

I also tried adding us.f116.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose to the IE proxy server exclusion list, but that didn't work. I'm still forced to shutdown proxo to send mail.

I included the posted data from the proxo log.

New Message Log Window....
BlockList 94: in BypassList, line 36

+++GET 94+++
POST /ym/Compose?YY=48944 HTTP/1.0
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, */*
Referer: http://us.f116.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?YY=82317&order=down&sort=date&pos=0
Accept-Language: en-us
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461)
Host: us.f116.mail.yahoo.com
Content-Length: 268
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: keep-alive
Browser reload detected...
Posting 268 bytes...
.crumb=0kabgwNiFa6
box=
FwdFile=
FwdMsg=
FwdSubj=
OriginalFrom=
OriginalSubject=
InReplyTo=
NumAtt=0
AttData=
FName=
Video=
SEND=Send
[email protected]
Subj=test
Cc=
Bcc=
SaveCopy=yes
nnPad=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Body=test
Format=
 

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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2002, 06:18:26 AM »
Hi "Friends",
             I had noticed that about yahoo. I've been working on the right string to make it work smoothly. I have heard that they had to "beef-up" their security, but that's just "hear-say". I'm still working on it, but here is what I've been using so far. I use it for Exceptions, and for the Cookie list, and I have used it for By-pass. And I have noticed that Proxo Will Continue to Filter in the "WEB-PAGE Filters" even though you have Proxo in "BY-PASS" Mode. There are probably some "Kill Java Script Filters" in that section that are still filtering and that why it works when you shut Proxo down. The only way that I know to find the Filter or Filters responcible, is to pop-up the Log-Window and see what filters are "firing", go through the Java Filters one at a time & turn them off till the Site Works. And then write an Exception in those Filters for that page or pages. It takes time and I know that you raise some big bushy "Yahoo & Hotmail Eye-brows" when you sit there diabling Filters and re-loading that same page over & over again until it works. LOL! I think it kinda makes them nervous when IPs,User-Agents, Referrers, Via:, And X-Forwarded-For: values seem to change with every re-load!=:-) Any way here is a few strings that I keep around that might help until we figure out exactly what they are doing.
 
[^/]++asp.flaaten.dk/w
[^/]++arne.jaha.dk/w
[^/]++.(hotmail.msn.com|hotmail.passport.com|services.msn.com|­hotmail.com|yahoo|wyimg.com)
[^/]++loginnet.passport.com/ppsecure/w
[^/]++.(lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com|lc2.law5.passport.com/w)
[^/]++hotmail.com/w
[^/]++64.4.22.24
[^/]++h.msn.com/

I use a block for "wyimg.com" in another Filter, so I suppose that you could delete that one from the string. And you will notice that it's for Hotmail and the FORUM and Sub-Forum also. It could be put together in one string, but Proxo seems to work faster for me if I put them in different strings. (Could be my imagination, too)
Well, I hope that this helps abit. If I come up with the right filters causing the problem, I will be sure to get back to you.
Have a Great and Wonderful Day, My FRIENDS!
"Jak"

P.S.: I had over looked the fact that "Mbowling's" Proxo configuration works OK at his work! My mistake.Mbowling you might check your Home Machine's Browser settings and see for sure if it is set the same as your Work Machine. Most of the time pages that you interact with, when you click something on the page, you are actually activating some Script, maybe Java or Java script or ActiveX controls. SUN came up with Java, and the Netscape folks came up with Java Scripting, and Micro-soft answered with ActiveX. And Java should not be confused with Java Scripting. All these are just another name for "Download and Run"! They make pages look more pleasant, and make them interactive, but at the same time can make great security holes. ActiveX opens your computer up to just about anybody to run just about Any Script they want to run without your consent or Knowledge, even re-formating! Forunately, only I.E. browser have ActiveX. But even the ActiveX controls in Media Players can be used to intiate I.E. commands! I disable every Java, Java Script, and ActiveX off that I can, unless I need them to interacte with a certain page and then disable then immediately. I would check your browser settings and see if they match your work machine's settings. I think that there in lies the problem. Let me know how you come out and if the settings are the same. Safe Surfing, MY FRIENDS!
Have a Wonderful & Blessed Day,
"Jak"

 



Edited by - JakBeNymble on 09 Apr 2002  18:29:01
 

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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2002, 01:43:42 PM »
I checked my broswer settings and everything is identical. I'm totally confused as to why I can't send Yahoo mail through Proxo. Looks like Yahoo is beating me in this battle. If I can't resolve this soon I'll have to stop using Proxo. Thanks for your help.

Mike


 
 

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2002, 02:36:41 PM »
Do you have a filter that convert form POSTS to form GETS in there? In that case it must be disabled.

Bypass of cookies: mail.yahoo.com & yahoo.com
About cookies: if the cookie has already been set as session-only, you may need to "officially" log out and re-log into Yahoo mail for a new cookie to be set.


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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2002, 09:04:54 PM »
Bypassing the cookies didn't help my problem. So, I decided to start over with the default configuration and filters. I removed Naoko 4.1 and downloaded Naoko 4.2 and made no changes to the default filters. I'm still unable to send Yahoo mail. Even right-clicking and choosing Bypass doesn't help. I must completely exit Proxo to send mail.

 
 

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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2002, 09:34:34 PM »
Maybe something else is blocking.
When I send it takes a trip to us.f120.mail.yahoo.com and gives out a cookie with the name "B=a-long-string"
I use Prox 4.2 and with much tighter configuration than the downloaded default and I have no problem sending mail from there.


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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2002, 10:09:21 PM »
I think the most likely problem is you may have a messed up cookie set in your browser somewhere. I don't use yahoo mail myself so can't check, but try clearing your browser cache and deleting *all* yahoo cookies.  Then make sure none of your filters are affecting the cookies since once a bad cookie is set, even bypassing Proxomitron may not correct it.  

Other than that please post the full Proxomitron log including any reply Yahoo sends.  It's also possible Yahoo's CGI script may be returning corrupt headers of some type which could cause Proxomitron not to be able to parse the reply, but that's usually rare.



 
 

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2002, 03:26:31 AM »
Thanks for the reply Arne and Scott.

I removed all the Yahoo cookies and still experienced the same problem. So I created a new user account on my Windows 2000 machine. This account had no cookies until I logged into Yahoo mail. I tried sending mail from the new account without success. I then stopped everything running in my taskbar. VirusScan, ZoneAlarm, everything was off except Proxomitron. I still wasn't able to send mail through Proxomitron. All other sites are filtered normally.

The only reason I'm pushing to make this work is that I've used this Yahoo mail account for years as my primary e-mail. It would be a real pain to switch.

This is the full log file when I hit the "Send" button in Yahoo mail.

New Message Log Window....

+++GET 42+++
POST /ym/Compose?YY=98952 HTTP/1.1
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, */*
Referer: http://us.f116.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?YY=98952
Accept-Language: en-us
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461)
Host: us.f116.mail.yahoo.com
Content-Length: 277
Pragma: no-cache
Cookie: ...
Connection: keep-alive
Browser reload detected...
Posting 277 bytes...
.crumb=MOTl6M.CNpK
box=
FwdFile=
FwdMsg=
FwdSubj=
OriginalFrom=
OriginalSubject=
InReplyTo=
NumAtt=0
AttData=
FName=
Video=
SEND=Send
[email protected]
Subj=testing
Cc=
Bcc=
SaveCopy=yes
nnPad=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Body=testing+mail
Format=


 

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2002, 05:16:47 AM »
I see no reply in your log example - only the request. Are you sure that's everything?

I tried creating a yahoo mail account myself and composed and sent a mail without problem.  I'm not sure how exactly, if it's a firewall, router or some software or setting you may have in Yahoo mail, but  I can't seem to recreate the problem.